PSA Bible Reading Challenge 2023-2024

Luke gives us an image of what an innocent Pilate could look like.  If you read these verses carefully you will see the pains to which the Gospel writer goes to show how Pilate did everything in his power to free Jesus.  Three times (vs.22) he tells the religious leaders that he sees no fault in Jesus and that he is going to just torture him and then let him go free.  But he was so swayed by the people that he could not stand up to them and eventually allowed them to have his way.  A reticent Pilate becomes an enabler.  

How often do we see things that we just know are not the way that God had planned them to be in our families, or in our neighborhoods, or in our churches and we just don’t think that we have any power or any control over  what happens next so we do nothing, we just remain quiet.  If nothing else, Pilate is a great case study for someone like us who knows what the right thing to do is and yet don’t do it because we don’t trust that God has our back. 

I find it interesting that Herod and Pilate have their own little love story in this Scripture.  We rarely see a personal touch as Luke includes in vs.12 and it almost seems as if they were having fun.  

What is not fun to read is what happens to Jesus in all of this.  It is interesting that Luke does not have Jesus being whipped and beaten like the other Gospels.  Instead we have this Via Dolorosa that Jesus takes, which literally means the way of pain or suffering.  He has an interaction with Simon of Cyrene who is compelled to carry Jesus’ cross.  He didn’t volunteer, I just think he was in the wrong place at the wrong time.  Jesus addresses a group of women, probably hired, who were mourning Jesus’ eventual death.  He turns to them and tells them to knock it off.  Well, not really, but he does tell them not to worry about him, but rather about themselves as the future does not look promising.

The two thieves are good cop and bad cop with the good cop chastising the bad cop for not realizing the position in which they were in.  I wanted to include a link to Monty Python’s “Always look on the bright side of life” but there is a bad word in the song and I couldn’t do it.  But whenever I get to the story of the thieves I can’t help but see that scene.  What we often forget in that scene is Jesus’ promise to the good thief that this day he shall join him in paradise.  

The death of Jesus allows those who are witnessing to realize that they missed the opportunity and this was truly, as the centurion stated, an innocent man.  Joseph of Arimathea comes around and lays Jesus’ body in the tomb and the women witnessed  and they will return in a few days.

It seems like there should be 5 chapters wrapped up into one chapter here.  So many events in the life of Christ take place, and they are extraordinarily memorable events.  Think about the progression that takes place in the chapter, and try to follow the mood and the excitement that ebbs and flows during the chapter.  Jesus begins the chapter as the Alpha in that region.  We read that the religious leaders “were afraid of the people” because of Jesus.  He is without a doubt one of the most popular and influential people in the region in that time period.  But then all it takes is one person to begin to sow seeds of discontent that can then escalate into a train that is running which cannot be stopped.  Judas’ motivation, according to Luke, was money.  He consented because they agreed to pay him.  Some of the other Gospel writers may have different approaches to the motivation behind Judas’ betrayal (the realization that Jesus was not instilling a political kingdom, the recognition that there never would be an opportunity to be with the front runner and at the helm of a movement that would bring the kingdom of God on the earth with Israel in charge militarily).  But here Luke is very clear, money was behind his decision making.  

But the disciples and Jesus were not privy to Judas’ decision making.  Okay, Jesus knew, but the disciples were still flying high.  I’m guessing that throughout this whole last week of his life Jesus was pretty reflective and maybe was even considered moody.  I don’t think he joined in the celebrations of Palm Sunday, but was much more serene and stoic than his disciples as he rode into Jerusalem.  That’s my take.  

The last supper takes place and Jesus gives the Words of Institution in the midst of trying to describe who it would be that was going to betray him.  This leads them to ask of themselves who is it that will betray Jesus.  This then leads, and I’m not sure how they get here, to who is the greatest among them as far as being a disciple of Jesus Christ.  Can you imagine that conversation: “I wonder who it is that is going to betray Jesus.  It is probably that John guy, he is so quiet and maybe even mischievous.  Maybe it’s Peter, he seems to be pretty puffed up on himself.  Wait, isn’t Peter the greatest among us, Jesus seems to think so.  Peter?  No way!  I’m the greatest among us, no I’m the greatest.”  It sounds like a room full of Mohammed Ali’s arguing over who is the greatest of all time.  Jesus tells them simply that he has given to them all a seat at the kingdom and that kingdom allows them to eat and drink at the Lord’s table.  Appropriate that on this evening of the Last Supper he gives his disciples the right to eat and drink at His table.  

I love what he does with his disciples starting at vs.35.  He really builds a case for their being able to trust and rely upon his word.  Do you remember when I sent you out without a purse, bag or sandals?  Did you ever find yourself in need?  Now I’m adding this part, and didn’t you think at the time that it was a crazy idea and that it would never work?  Remember that?  Well, did it work out?  Were you ever in need?  So just trust me that things are going to work out.  It is hard to trust someone until you have a bit of a track record with them.

At this point things start to go south.  Jesus prays in the garden and Luke has the very illustrative verses of 43-44 that depict him sweating drops of blood.  I can think of no other more graphic representation of Jesus’ agony than this one.  Judas betrays him, Peter betrays him…three times, the chief priests betray him.  Nuff said.  Things only get worse.

I couldn’t help but think of this image when I read vs. 5-6.

This church is located in the Italian Alps near Turin in a region called the Waldensian Valleys.  It is a Protestant Church, reformed and Presbyterian in governance.  In those valleys the cathedrals are Protestant because the people for the most part are Protestant.  I know, Protestant valleys in Italy, doesn’t quite make sense.  There is a long history which is tied in with the Huguenots that created safe havens for those fleeing from the government authorities who wanted to persecute them for their religious beliefs in the 15th and 16th centuries and even later.  The actual image above is a scene from just a few months ago of Pope Francis meeting with Waldensian representatives.  This marked the first time that a Pope has ever met officially with representatives from the Waldensian Church.  I remember when I was a pastor in the Waldensian Church and meeting and speaking with then Cardinal Ratzinger, who later became Pope Benedict, who said he was basically waiting for us as Protestants to come back to the real church.  Needless to say, he was not my favorite Pope.  This guy is much, much better.  He seems to get it.

But it is the building and the space that reminds us of what we are capable of in order to worship God.  These structures for many are a sign of opulence and exaggeration.  God doesn’t need temples, He doesn’t need gold inlay, He doesn’t need any of the costly materials or buildings that we say we need in order to do ministry.  But the point that Jesus is making is not so much about the opulence of the temple as much as the transience of anything temporal.  “As for all that you see, these things will be thrown down and not one stone will be left upon another.”  The days are surely coming, says the Lord, when he will come back and claim us as his children.

The entire rest of the chapter sounds a lot more like Revelation than it does Luke.  Jesus says: “By your endurance you will gain your souls.” For us today it really means no compromise, which is the principle message from Revelation.  If we endure and keep our faith in our Savior, then our souls will be saved.  If we wander and stray away from the Lord and do not rely and trust in him, then we do need to be aware of the judgment that is coming.  Boy, it all sounds very scary.  As I heard today, if we know Jesus as Savior it doesn’t need to be scary at all.  If we don’t know Jesus, I don’t want people to be disciples out of fear, but fear can be a motivating factor.  I don’t want people to turn to Jesus because of their fear of hell, but I also don’t want to deny that hell exists.

When Jesus states in vs. 32 that this generation will not pass away until all things have taken place, I wonder to which generation he was referring.  What he does tell us is the daily plan that we ought to have: “Be alert at all times…”  That is the key, isn’t it?  We don’t know when those times are going to come, but being alert means being constantly wedded to Christ and his purposes here on this earth.  This is our mission and our calling.

The questioning of Jesus’ authority is nothing new.  But in what context do we see the authority of individuals questioned?  In a similar context the authority of a pastor is not normally questioned within the congregation, especially within the Presbyterian Church (USA) where the session is the governing authority.  If I were to say something on a Sunday morning I don’t believe that people would question that I would have the right to say whatever it might be, as long as it was Scriptural and followed what at least seemed like a lesson from the Scripture.  Authority is that which allows one to speak freely and without reservation.  Authority is that which allows a person to say something and even do something and the ensuing result is not questioned, but rather embraced.  Does a pastor have authority within the church?  Certainly the pastor has influence and hopefully that influence translated into authority.  But even more fortunately within our church there are even more checks and balances than in most churches.  You wouldn’t want me barging ahead thinking I could do anything I want.  It wouldn’t be pretty.

Interestingly those testing Jesus aren’t even able to answer the question of authority in regards to John the Baptist.  They were too afraid of what kind of a response they would get from the people.  So those testing Jesus said they didn’t know by what authority John taught.  Jesus responds in regards to his own authority not with an I don’t know, but rather with I’m not going to tell you.  There is a big difference between these two responses.

The question about the widow and the resurrection is an interesting one.  We fully believe that once we die then immediately we will be with Jesus.  The question often arises, but will we recognize and know each other?  Absolutely, I believe that we will.  I don’t really have a Scripture to back that up, but I don’t have a Scripture that refutes that claim, but this one comes close.  Jesus states that in heaven we will not be marrying and giving away in marriage.  We will not be in the types of relationships that we have here on earth.  Here on the earth we have relationships of give and take, of compromise, of trying to serve the other while making sure our own individuality doesn’t disappear.  Relationships on earth are complicated, and become even more complicated when you have mixed and extended families.  But Jesus says in heaven we will be simply children of God.  When you are a child you don’t worry about marriage.  You have a whole group of friends that you go out with and play.  

As I was growing up in Ventnor, NJ we lived at the Overseas Ministries Study Center right there on Ventnor and Portland Avenues.  It was a massive complex of building a block away from the beach.  Every summer there would be tens of kids who would be back in the United States for the summer as their parents, who were missionaries, were on furlough.  We would have a band of close to 100 kids that would play, roam around the town, make up games, and in short, just have an amazing time.  It was an enchanted childhood.  Every summer a new set of kids would come in, and over time since I was the one who was kind of permanent there, the kids tended to not shy away from me.  It was a setting where during the summer you really didn’t have anything to worry about.  The relationships were easy, quickly made, and then just as quickly the gang of kids was gone, only to be replaced with another a year later.  

When Jesus speaks about being a child of God he expects and wishes for us relationships that are not complicated, or at least certainly relationships that we don’t complicate.  So often we complicate the relationships in which we find ourselves.  

A wee little man named Zaccheus hosted Jesus at his home.  The Scripture says that he jumped down off the tree and was so pleased that Jesus had noticed him.  Then in vs.6 it states that he was happy to welcome him to his home.  People were not happy with this new found friendship.  Jesus should not be at the house of sinners.  This sinner has a surprise for Jesus and everyone else who is in attendance.  It is a statement that he makes unsolicited and without Jesus asking him to step up.  “How about this Jesus?  Half of that which I own I will give to the poor, and if anyone has a beef against how I collected, I’ll pay them back four times.”

On a recent plane ride I saw the beginning (the plane landed before the movie was over) of Spotlight.  It was the investigation into the Roman Catholic Church and the systemic abuse that was being covered up.  Let me be clear, this could have been, and just may be, any church at all.  The fact that there is a protective statute of limitations for these institutions is sickening.  Zaccheus does not have a statute of limitations for how far back they could go if they were wronged by him.  “If I have defrauded anyone of anything…”  When he encounters Jesus his life is changed and the sky is the limit.  What a great example.  

After our first two years as missionaries in Russia we were required to come back to the United States and itinerate, that is to speak in churches about our experiences.  Before we began our speaking tour Stacy and I had to come up with a Scripture that we were going to use as our basis for what we said about our ministry in Moscow.  We chose Luke 18:1-8.  Our experiences in Russia were ones that we had never come across before, they were so dramatic and impossible, seemingly impossible, to overcome that we realized that the more we prayed, the more God was able to take the impossible and bring out miracles.  Jesus explains what these verses are all about from the very beginning.  Look at vs.1.  Jesus tells this parable so that people would see the need for prayer and not lose heart if they felt like their prayer was not being answered.  Can I get an amen from the choir?  Have you ever prayed, and prayed, and prayed, and after an hour, okay, maybe after a week, even for some of us after a few months and even years it seems like God is that cruel judge who doesn’t care?  Jesus says that even that cruel judge who doesn’t believe in God and has no regard for humanity will eventually respond if we are persistent enough.  How much more will God, who loves us, created us, and calls us His very children, respond in due time?  It is a great lesson in patience for those of us wired to expect a response from God immediately.  That is not the way that God works.

Jesus’ next moral of the story is centered around vs.14 where he tells us that those who exalt themselves will be humbled and those who humble themselves will be exalted.  I’m wondering if any events that are happening within the United States right now just might make us think about this verse and how this truth will be carried out.  The pride that we see on so many different fronts in our country is staggering.  If Jesus were to wander around our country for a few days I am sure that he would say that these verses were spoken exactly for people and situations in which we find ourselves.  We have a certain pride about ourselves that is unhealthy.  That pride generates a belief that we are self-sufficient and that all we need is ourselves in order to be successful and in order to be the best at what we do.  Often times humility is equated with weakness.  For Jesus our weakness is found in what we consider our strength.  That’s just the way Jesus works and he encourages us to work the same way.

I just noticed the emphasis on vs.15 of infants being brought to Jesus.  I had always thought that it was children, but the Greek here in these verses actually says: “Even infants were being brought to Jesus.”  Now the rebuke by the male disciples, and that is a key point, male disciples, is probably along the lines of: “Your infants if they are out with the crowds will get all sorts of sicknesses that they should not be exposed to at such an early age.”  I’m making this part up, but from my experience of living in a Mediterranean culture like Southern Italy, you learn immediately what the saying means: “It takes a village to raise a child.”  We were often stopped on the streets when Rachel and Naomi were infants and given advice on what we should be doing with them from perfect strangers.  If it was a little bit windy and we didn’t have a hat on Rachel and we went out for a walk, oh boy did we hear about it.  Perfect strangers would nearly accost us on the street telling us what bad parents we were for not putting a hat on her head.

This played out every single time that we went out with our infants.  Every person in that congested town of Portici felt like they were the rightful parents of any child that they might happen to come across.  The generations of advice and insight into child rearing would be poured into the unsuspecting and helpless parent who just might be crossing their paths.  By the end of it, we were a little tired and we would pretend that we didn’t understand what they were saying and just say some words in English.  Then they were much more forgiving because foreigners didn’t know anything anyway, so how could you expect this foreign couple to know what was good for their child.  Maybe, just maybe, the disciples were rebuking the parents because obviously their infants should not have been exposed to the chaos that surrounded Jesus.  Well, Jesus was not so sure.  He blessed them.

The story of the ten lepers is one of my favorites to tell the preschool kids on chapel day.  It is an easy one and one that the kids quickly pick up on.  No, it wasn’t right that only one returned and gave thanks to Jesus for what he had done.  But one aspect of this story that we never cover in preschool is the fact that the one who returned was actually a Samaritan.  Jesus sure uses Samaritans a lot in his stories and really underlines their worth in his interactions with them.  Think about the Samaritan woman at the well whom Jesus engages and makes her an evangelist.  His disciples are shocked not only that he is speaking with a woman, but a Samaritan woman at that!  Then we have the parable of the Good Samaritan who is the quintessential protagonist who shows up the religious leaders on what it means to love thy neighbor.  It isn’t just Luke, but it is Jesus who engages the foreigner and does not in any way make them feel like…well, a foreigner.

At our Revelation study on the first Wednesday of the month we had a lengthy conversation about the rapture.  Now, I take the position that one thing we know for sure is that Jesus is going to be coming back.  We know that, it is a given.  What we do not know is what is it going to look like, be like, or what events will take place before he comes back?  There is only circumstantial evidence that this concept of a rapture is ever going to take place.  I wonder, as you hear me say that, does it in any way cause you to question a person’s salvation based upon their belief in the rapture?  I think we have created guidelines and fantasies where people have taken a few verses out of context: Jesus coming from the clouds and meeting us – I Thessalonians 4:17, or that some will be left behind – Luke 17:22ff.  These verses in Luke have been used consistently as proof texts for those who would want to prove that the rapture is going to happen.

If the rapture happens, great, I’ll be with Jesus.  If the rapture doesn’t happen, great, I’ll be with Jesus.  We know that consistently Jesus warns his disciples and others that we should not in any way try to predict how these end time events are going to take place.  We know that people are going to be living their lives normally, that’s what these verses tell us, and then it is going to happen without any warning and without anyone knowing that it is about to take place.  From one day to the next, it is not a progression, Jesus will come back.  I do not believe that the rapture is in any way anti-Christian.  But then again, I think Christians who don’t believe in the rapture should also be given the same benefit of the doubt.  

I found this online.  I don’t think they meant it to be funny, but it kind of is.  I love the smoke, it is a nice touch.  Again, Jesus speaks in these verses not to prepare his disciples for the rapture, but rather to make sure that they know how ready they have to be for his second coming.

I guess all I can do is start today’s blog with a story.  There was a very wealthy man who was quite stingy with his money.  He never gave to the church, never gave to those in need, and still thought he was a good man.  When he got to the pearly gates after he died St. Peter looked in the book and said: “Sorry, your name isn’t in this book.”  The man was indignant, he said: “What do you mean?  I remember vividly giving that homeless man by McDonald’s a dollar, and then last year at blanket offering I’m sure I gave at least $5, and I’m pretty sure 25 years ago when I got married I gave the church $10.  How can you say I’m not in?”  St. Peter was about to say something when a voice from heaven boomed out: “Give him back his $16 and tell him to go to…”  I’m guessing you can finish that line, I’m probably not supposed to.

The first 9 verses of chapter 16 are a bit puzzling.  Read them again one more time.  I love the fact that every time that Jesus talks about money he never takes up an offering.  What a breath of fresh air.  The beginning of chapter 16 is puzzling if we have never seen the world through the eyes of someone who lives in a reality where you are just trying to survive one day to the next.  The five years that we lived in Russia I quickly came to distinguish between morality and legality.  It was illegal to hire a refugee from Cameroon to run your food ministry.  It was immoral to not allow a refugee from Cameroon to work for your social ministry.  Which one will you choose?  Will you choose to do that which is moral or that which is legal?  We don’t often have to make that choice here in the United States.  Morality and Legality are often two sides of the same coin.  We are not placed in situations where we have to choose between one or the other.  In Russia I had to make that choice every day.  I paid off police officers, I gave money to government employees to expedite our application to become legal, I made decisions that should have had me deported had people found out, I exchanged money on the black market, I used two passports, I paid for an exit visa…  The list continues, but I’m not sure you want a continued running of the illegal actions that I took.  But I would argue that they were all moral and all were that which contributed to the kingdom of God.  The ends never justify the means, but that which is illegal is not always immoral.  

In Jesus’ day the reality was the same.  The soon to be fired manager called in his boss’ clients and reduced all of their bills so that when he was fired he would have a body of people who would be nice to him.  Was that immoral?  It was certainly illegal and yet the boss when he saw his soon to be fired manager: “commended the dishonest manager because he had acted shrewdly.”  It actually gets worse, so if you are squirming, you just might want to close your computer and move on to the next thing on your agenda.  Jesus actually says in vs. 9: “make friends for yourselves by means of dishonest wealth so that when it is gone, they may welcome you into the eternal homes.”  Jesus tells his disciples to make friends with entrepreneurs who might not have made their fortune in the most honest way possible.  Notice that he is not telling them to make their fortune dishonestly, but become friends with people who did make their fortune dishonestly.

My brother and I have a long running debate on what is called BAM (Business As Mission).  Just to be clear my brother is the Dean of New College of Biblical and Theological Studies at Eastern University, so he is way smarter than I am.  But he is a strong proponent of business being able to provide a launching pad for mission while I have all along argued that business to its core is antithetical to the type of mission that Jesus would want us to do.  I’m sure that he is right, and in light of these Scriptures I may have to succumb to the pressures that are about me and say that he may have a point.  But isn’t there something unsettling in the words of Jesus when he encourages us to make friends with people who are dishonest?  Wait, let me take that back.  I am not in any way equating business with dishonesty.  In fact, the owner was the honest one, the manager was the one who was dishonest.  It does make us think.

The entire chapter of Luke 15 is dedicated to finding the one who was lost.  There are three separate stories and all of them are set up by the comment that a disgruntled Pharisee makes when he said: “This fellow welcomes sinners and eats with them.”  The assumption was that Jesus should have nothing to do with them because they are obvious sinners.  The statement assumes that Jesus should be spending time with people who are not sinners, people who are righteous, church people, people like us.  That’s not Jesus’ take on the matter.

The parable of the lost sheep is a classic and many have attempted to portray the scene as one where the other 99 really weren’t in danger because it was fairly common for the shepherd to leave the dogs in charge for a bit of time.  The point of this parable, as is the point of the others, is that Jesus will celebrate over the one sinner who repents because the other 99 do not need to have his presence.  Everyone needs to repent,of course, but the sinner with whom Jesus was told he should not be hanging turns out to be the one that Jesus is willing to bend over backwards to save.  He is called to the lost sheep, not the found sheep.  How does that relate to us in an institutionalized setting such as the church?  Who are the 99 righteous if not the members of the church.  Who is the lost sheep if not the ones who want to have nothing to do with the church, who are on the periphery, who need to be found by wandering outside of the church to see if they are in the area?  Jesus calls us out of our pews and into the streets.

The lost coin is almost the identical lesson.  The one sinner who repents is cause for much joy.  The sinner is not going to be where we expect them to be.  They are not going to be joining us on Sunday morning.  They might be here for a wedding or maybe even a funeral.  I have come across so many people in this community that have told me that at one time they used to come to church at First Presbyterian.  For many of them it was during their childhood and since then they didn’t see the utility of attending church and so have turned their back completely on the church.  Notice that I am not saying that they have turned their back on God, although some have, but certainly have on the church.  They will make an appearance at a wedding or a funeral.  This is a lost coin.  This is someone the church ought to spend the time and the effort to pour ourselves into.  One of the missions of the membership needs to be to find the lost sheep and rejoice over the found coins.  

We know the parable of the prodigal son.  

I’ll never forget wandering around the Hermitage in St. Petersburg, Russia and turning to go down a stairwell when this painting by Rembrandt caught my eye.  It is the father welcoming back home the prodigal son.  There is such a tenderness in the touch of the father and an obvious abject confession on the part of the son in his tattered clothes and his single shoe that is curled up.  My favorite part of the parable is found in vs. 20 where we read that while the returning son “was still far off, his father saw him.”  The image I have is that of the father every morning with his coffee cup in hand staring out over at the horizon wondering, hoping that this would be the day that his son returns.

The image of our Father in heaven staring out over the horizon waiting and hoping for us to return to his side is one that resonates with me.  There are times in our lives when we are still far away from the Father, but he is still waiting and hoping that we will return.  When we do, we will be welcomed back with open arms.  The older brother, who would that be?  The entire chapter creates a dichotomy between those who are righteous, or those who have followed the will of God, and the sinners, those who have chosen to turn their backs on God in certain times in their lives.  So if the younger son is the sinner who has been found (vs.32) then the older son must be the righteous, or to apply it to today’s terms, those who are members of the church.  Are we indignant when the sinners are welcomed back into the church even though they haven’t done anything to deserve that welcome?  Are we filled with joy when we see programs changing and time and material resources being spent on those who have not had anything to do with the church, and maybe never will, while they could be spent for the good of the members?  It is a tough question.  We think logically that what we have should be focused on us.  Jesus says no, what we have is for the purpose of bringing the lost to Jesus.

Jesus loves to teach around the dinner table.  Once again, in spite of his condemnation and very harsh words for the religious leaders of his day, they still want him around and they still invite him over for a meal.  This time he tells a parable that deals with a meal as well.  He first teaches people that if you are going to be the first in the kingdom of heaven you must be servant of all.  Back in the 1st century there was a certain protocol in regards to where people sat distinguished their place of honor and their status.  Without living in a caste system it is hard to understand exactly what is going on here.  What Jesus tells his disciples is that we should put ourselves last and then the potential is there that the host would bump us up to first.  If we put ourselves first, we will most certainly be placed lower and that will be an embarrassment.  What is a little unusual in these verses is that the teaching really revolves around how other people see you.  Vs. 11 gives us the moral of the story: “All who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted.”

We then move onto another meal parable.  He begins by saying that when you have a meal don’t invite those people that you  know will return the favor.  If you want to have a real blessing invite those whom you know will never return the favor.  We tried that once in the church where I was a pastor in Florida.  We had a bbq cookout in the poorest section of town.  I took someone from that section with me to go shopping.  We bought ribs and pork chops and the bill came out to over $800.  We cooked up the food, there were a ton of people there, and then they came and took the food to go, and within 30 minutes it was just us church folk sitting around without any food because they had taken all the food back to their homes.  When we got back and debriefed we realized that the sense of disappointment that we felt was a result of the fact that things didn’t work out the way that we wanted them to work out.  They worked out exactly the way that the people to whom we were ministering wanted them to work out.  At the end of the day we figured that it was more important that we were a presence even if it wasn’t on our terms, but rather theirs.